Friday, April 15, 2016

Chat about pet cat after Gao shot dead

Roger Rogerson shot Jamie Gao dead over a botched drug deal, pointed a pistol at his co-accused and made threats against his children, but then went to his home for a "light-hearted" chat about family pets and dodgy vets, a court has heard.

Glen McNamara on Friday told a NSW Supreme Court jury how he had been forced to help move Gao's body after Rogerson shot him twice following an expletive-laden stand-off over the exchange of a package of drugs at a Padstow storage unit in May 2014.

McNamara, the court has heard, stepped back and hid under a table when he saw Rogerson level his gun at Mr Gao.

But moments after shooting the allegedly triad-connected drug dealer, Rogerson swung his aim onto McNamara.

February 17, 2016: CCTV pictures of Jamie Gao’s alleged killers, Roger Rogerson and Glen McNamara, allegedly show the pair dragging the Sydney student's body from a Padstow storage unit.

With his gun pointed directly at McNamara's head, Rogerson demanded help moving Mr Gao's body.

"I'll do you. Get up and help you weak c*** or you will be on the floor next to him," McNamara said he was told by Rogerson.

"Do as I tell you or I'll kill your girls."

"Terrified", "stunned" and fearing for his life and that of his two daughters, aged 20 and 22 at the time, McNamara decided to go along with Rogerson's plan to dispose of Mr Gao's body, he told the court on Friday.

McNamara was sent to fetch something from the car to help them do so and returned with a busted surf board bag, he said.

Rogerson struggled to stuff Mr Gao's body into the bag.

"This is s***house. Get rid of it," McNamara said he was told.

The men eventually lifted Mr Gao's body into a car and drove to the Cronulla unit block where McNamara lived and stored his boat.

According to McNamara, Rogerson said "we'll put the c*** in your boat" and the pair went and hired a block and tackle to hoist Mr Gao's remains into the vessel.

After relocating the body, Rogerson told McNamara he wanted to speak to his "lovely daughters" in what the jury was told was a menacing tone.

McNamara then told Rogerson he didn't need to speak to the girls.

"I said 'I've got the message'," McNamara said on Friday.

The men then went to McNamara's unit and sat at a table drinking a few beers.
"It was a friendly conversation," McNamara said.

"We spoke about our pet cat and we spoke about how Rogerson knew a vet that charged too much money to look after people's animals."

After about an hour of generally light-hearted conversation, at which McNamara's eldest daughter was present, Rogerson asked McNamara if they were going fishing early the next day.

"We'll get rid of that c*** in the morning," McNamara said he was told by Rogerson.

Mr Gao's body was spotted by fishermen on May 26, 2014, wrapped in a surfboard bag and a blue tarpaulin, bobbing in waters off Cronulla.

The crown case is the two men, who accuse each other of killing Mr Gao, shot the alleged drug dealer and stuffed his remains into a surfboard bag before dumping it at sea.

The trial continues.


Roger Rogerson killed Jamie Gao, co-accused Glen McNamara tells court

Thursday, April 14, 2016

Roger Rogerson 'just shot' Jamie Gao, co-accused claims

February 17, 2016: CCTV pictures of Jamie Gao’s alleged killers, Roger Rogerson and Glen McNamara, allegedly show the pair dragging the Sydney student's body from a Padstow storage unit. Video link

Disgraced cop Roger Rogerson "just shot" Jamie Gao in the chest during a botched drug deal, his murder co-accused has told a court.

His former colleague Glen McNamara said Rogerson was seething with anger following a heated exchange with Gao, inside a Padstow storage shed.

The men were swearing at each other and demanding to see bags of ice or money, and Gao had a "combat" knife, McNamara said.

"Rogerson just shot him," he told the NSW Supreme Court through tears.

"[The bullet] it knocked him back in the chair and he dropped the knife.

"[Rogerson] held aim on him and shot him again.

"Gao stopped moving, there was no noise, he just killed him."

McNamara said he yelled "why! Why! Why!" after witnessing the 20-year-old university student die.

He and Rogerson have each accused the other of killing Gao, before allegedly stuffing his body into a surfboard bag and dumping it at sea in May 2014.

Earlier today McNamara denied firing the fatal shots when Rogerson was out of the storage unit, as Rogerson has claimed.

The hearing continues.

Roger Rogerson threatened to kill my girls, Glen McNamara tells court

A gun was being aimed at former policeman Glen McNamara when he allegedly heard the words, "I'll kill your girls."

Mr McNamara claimed this was the voice of former detective Roger Rogerson, who had just allegedly shot and killed university student Jamie Gao.

On Friday, Mr McNamara gave evidence in his defence in the NSW Supreme Court, claiming he helped dispose of the body of Mr Gao only because his life and the lives of his daughters were threatened.

"[Mr Rogerson] turned on me. He pointed the gun directly towards my head and he said, 'I'll do you, get up and help me you weak c---. You'll be on the floor next to him.' "

Later he claimed Mr Rogerson said: "Do as I tell you or I'll kill your girls."

Roger Rogerson leaving court earlier in the trial. Photo: Edwina Pickles
Mr McNamara told the jury he was terrified.

"I was terrified but paralysed altogether … just stunned. I've never felt like that before," he said.

Mr McNamara and Mr Rogerson are charged with the murder of Mr Gao and accused of stealing the 2.78 kilograms of the drug ice he had brought to sell them.

The pair are pinning the murder on each other.

Mr McNamara told the jury he saw Mr Rogerson shoot Mr Gao twice in the chest as the pair argued over drugs and money.

The killing took place inside a southern Sydney storage shed on May 20, 2014.

Mr McNamara's case is that Mr Rogerson then ordered him to find something in which to conceal the body of Mr Gao.

"Rogerson said to me, 'Go through the shit in the car and see if there is anything that can cover him up.' "

He said he watched Mr Rogerson tie up the deceased's body with ropes.

"I saw him effectively lasso the legs together … same with the arms."

After Mr Gao was wrapped in a tarpaulin and stuffed inside a surfboard bag, Mr Rogerson then allegedly spoke to Mr McNamara in a "very menacing and aggressive tone".

"He said to me, 'Give me a hand to drag this c--- out … he's going to your place so I can see your lovely girls."

The pair then drove back to Mr McNamara's Cronulla apartment and parked in the basement of the complex.

This was where Mr McNamara's boat was parked.

"[Mr Rogerson] said, 'Oh terrific, the c---'s going in the boat.'

"I said, 'Not my boat, it's got an oil leak. You can't use my boat.' "

Sometime later, the pair drove to Kennards Hire at Taren Point where they hired a block and tackle, which was later used to help hoist Mr Gao's body into Mr McNamara's boat.

After the pair had secreted the body in the boat, Mr McNamara claims Mr Rogerson again made reference to his daughters.

"He said, 'Let's go and see your lovely girls.' 

"I said, 'I've got the message, there's no need to involve my kids."

The trial continues before Justice Geoffrey Bellew.